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> You can get a 400 watt solar panel on Amazon for $300.

Too expensive. It's probably producing 200 watts average for 8 hours a day. That's 1600 watt hours, which is about $1.60 at PG&E prices. That would take 187 days to recoup the cost of just the panel.

If you include installation costs and "what PG&E steals if you wire it to the same grid" it's probably more like 4x that, which is too long.

Tell me when we can have 400 watt solar panels for $50. Stupid capitalism literally forces solar panel prices to make it unprofitable.

People should never have to take out loans for solar. Solar should be subsidized and forced by the government to be so cheap that it repays for its cost within a month. Then we're talking. Most things I buy to save money, I expect them to repay within a month. Maybe 2 months max.



You can get them used for that price, and new for $107 if you buy qty 10+. See signature solar as one example.

Installation costs and inverters not included, however.


If you are worried about a $300 solar panel you are not going to like the cost of a Mac Studio M3 Ultra 512 GB! haha


I'm not "worried" about that cost, I would rather just pay PG&E electricity if the solar panel cost $300.

Just pointing out why capitalism + solar is a failure. Capitalism reprices the good thing to be equally expensive to the bad thing, so that nobody buys the good thing anymore.




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