I’d love to see pictures. I’d love to drop MS/Google docs for something I can control myself.

Have you tried LibreOffice ( https://www.libreoffice.org/ ) or OnlyOffice ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/desktop )? Both are pretty decent, and free, and also have commercial versions.

MS365/Google docs is something entirely different to the old desktop office suites

It's a collaboration tool, with synced storage and file management etc

The overlap of a Venn diagram between users of these software is not very large - though there is some (overlap).

And both the products I mentioned also support online collaboration and storage. See LibreOffice Online ( https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/ ), OnlyOffice Workspace ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/workspace ) and OnlyOffice Enterprise ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/docs-enterprise ). I can't comment how feature compatible these are but alternatives do exist and that's good new for us. (Note that openDesk is based on a fork of LibreOffice Online, which is a commercial variant for those who don't want to bother implementing everything themselves).

Interesting, it seems I haven't interacted with this software for too long - makes sense in hindsight that there had been enough time to implement such features over the years. Thanks for correcting me.

Such a polite response! So seldom seen in comment forums. I congratulate you.

I've tried LibreOffice.

The UX is so clunky that I ended up giving up and started doing presentations in Google Slides, even if I then end up exporting them as a PDF to actually present/share.

Every time I try to use it, it feels like fighting my tool rather than my tool helping me. There is no one big bug; it's a million tiny things.

Recent versions? Because we deployed Nextcloud, I have been using and comparing OnlyOffice and Collabora for a bit, LibreOffice has been getting quite some work for presentations over the last year. My boss has issues with presentation editing (which is probably why we’ll end up with OnlyOffice), but was impressed by the features for the actual presentation.

Whatever Ubuntu ships. I try from time to time, and usually only last a few minutes.

I’m looking for more of a sharing experience. If I’m doing something locally myself I tend to use Mac pages, numbers or keynote. They’re underrated I think as local apps go. Getting a whole company on Mac just to use them is a non-starter though.

It seems to be just a collection of various open source components in an enterprise package with a bunch of features and integrations for companies. If you just want someone for personal use, check out Cryptpad, which is what openDesk uses for it's office component.

But would you be willing to pay for it? Would your company/organization be willing to move?

Absolutely not

OpenDesk is basically a huge helm file that configures the individual apps. Given enough RAM it should be rather simple to deploy. You can start right away, there is a community edition: https://gitlab.opencode.de/bmi/opendesk/deployment/opendesk