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Tolerance. I guess I just have less of it. Machines are faster now than they were back then and I am not going to tolerate slow response time just for the sake of the latest version of an OS. Windows is the same game. Upgrade, again and agina and again. All the while, no speed gain. I once worked for a guy who said, "Software is like a gas. It expands to fill space." Nowadays I use UNIX exclusively, as much as I can. Whenever I have to use Windows or Mac it slows me down. With UNIX, I can keep the software expansion contained and enjoy the speed gains as hardware improves.

Everything with computers is a trade-off. I'm happy to make some trade-offs and forgo whatever Cupertino is hawking in order to have flexibility and speed like the "good ole days".



OS X is also a UNIX. You can say Linux or *BSD or whatever, it's OK, nobody's going to judge you.


Technically OSX is an 'official UNIX,' and Linux is not so far as I know. I'm not sure of any of the BSDs are stamped with the 'official UNIX' label.


Technically. If you consider The Open Group as some sort of authority. But Apple's OSX shows how meaningless it is to recieve the expensive POSIX "certification" from The Open Group. Alas, there is nothing in the spec about having to actually perform. Nothing that requires clean design or reliability, let alone transparency. I mean, if you want to use UNIX for a commercial product, by all means go ahead, but the least you could do is not ruin it.

"Certified UNIX". Pure marketing. Apple has the budget. There are vastly better UNIX implementations (from which Apple has borrowed copiously) that will never be certified. Go figure.

From where I sit, the most talented coders always seem to hold the POSIX specifications in spite. They do not like them. OSX is proof that they are not being unreasonable by taking that view.

To be clear, I'm not endorsing GNU/Linux. That is a whole 'nother story of UNIX gone bad.


There are vastly better UNIX implementations (from which Apple has borrowed copiously) that will never be certified.

Like who? And what has Apple copied from them?


You are computer science student? At NYU? Is this question for real?

http://netbsd.org http://freebsd.org http://openbsd.org http://dragonflybsd.org

They all borrow from each other. They even borrow from Apple sometimes.

As for what has been copied, you simply need to read the source code.


I'm sorry, I thought you were going to claim Apple clearly ripped some UI elements off from Unity or Gnome or something.

Instead, you're saying OSX, which is BSD-based, borrowed elements from...BSD-based projects?

Wow. What's next? Are you going to call out the Kubuntu team?




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