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Long time linux user here. I often hop between my work windows machine, home linux desktop, BSD laptop and macOS laptop.

I can nitpick and find issues with all of these systems. I think there is a bit of a little saying that sometimes go around that, "all OSes just suck." On Windows 11, I've got ads, inconsistency between different windows provided by Windows (some have the newer UI look and some are still stuck with their Windows 7 like when adjusting print settings or advanced settings), and I can never get Bluetooth headphones with a mic to just work consistently (same with my co-workers). On macOS, the reorganization of settings have sucked for a number of settings, clicking with my mouse half the time does the view where it shows all the applications in my virtual desktop view (don't know the proper name of this) and having to augment macOS with Magnet. With Linux, some of the pains you've already mentioned. And of course those are same what even worst on desktop BSD. If I sit down I can probably think of more for all the platforms.

At the end of the day, all of them suck, its just a pick your pain. So just as you said, each one is the worst operating system in the world, except for all others.



Believe it or not, I finally bought an all AMD machine with decent driver support, and everything still works in Debian. Even closing the lid to sleep. Haven't tested hibernate, cause sleep works great and reliably. Even has incredible battery life and performance. I can hardly believe it.


Thank Microsoft for sleep just working, it's using "modern standby" which keeps the CPU and stuff running on lowest power rather than some "special magic mode". You're essentially killing peripherals, killing all but one core and parking it on some low mhz.

Initializing hardware is hard, reinitializing hardware is harder, so now when chips are power focusing we can just ignore the annoying steps :)


This is a weird argument.

Laptops have been successfully closed to sleep, and inserted into backpacks for literally decades.

My 2024 Lenovo X1 Carbon has not ever woken up and tried to commit heat-death suicide.

I am quite sure this isn't a widespread problem with Apple products.

I can't imagine what the hell people are even doing with laptops if they don't consider close-to-sleep, wifi and bluetooth bare minimum functional requirements.


>Thank Microsoft for sleep just working

Wait, what?? Just re-discussed the other day:

State of S3 – Your Laptop is no Laptop anymore – a personal Rant (2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41442490

> S0ix would be great if it worked. But unfortunately it does not - laptops die from overheating, draining their battery in the process.

> This issue is not limited to Linux, as Dell officially warns to power down your Laptop before placing it in a backpack.


Umm, not that well. I've had audio playing and after closing the lid, the audio continues to play. At times, I wonder if it's really asleep or not. You don't really know until you open the laptop (I guess I could measure power draw).




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