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>You mean the basis for Mac OS X?

I mean the company and OS that failed to leave to Jobs expectations, company pivoted to sell the OS on PCs, failed on that too, and was only spared bunkruptcy because Apple was desperate for an OS and Jobs.

The rest is meaningless retorts in the same vain, when all of the above are failed projects associated with Jobs, just like Musk has his own, which was the point.



You’re kind of undercutting your point by saying “Apple was desperate for an OS and Jobs.” In other words, firing Jobs was Apple’s fault, not Jobs’. Steve Jobs was exactly what Apple needed and would go on to provide exactly what they needed, only Apple under Sculley was too short-sighted to see that. If anything, getting fired from Apple was ultimately a triumph for Steve Jobs, given the benefit of hindsight.

My point is that when you put Musk among the pantheon of Silicon Valley CEOs, he doesn’t especially stand out for anything except being lucky. Compare him to Bill Gates, who, for better or for worse, revolutionized computing? Or Larry Ellison, who has somehow despite the odds miraculously managed to keep Oracle afloat and somewhat relevant for decades—no mean feat indeed?

Elon seems to be little more than a charming, lucky idiot. Make no mistake, charm and luck will take you far, but only so far. Sooner or later, one or the other will run out, and for Elon, it seems like he has depleted both resources at this point.


Elon depleted his 'charm' a long, long time ago.


Yes. When he voiced opinions that some people disagree with.


Opinions like calling a selfless diver risking his life to perform a Hail Mary rescue a pedophile yeah


No, much earlier than that.


> Elon seems to be little more than a charming, lucky idiot

This is selling him too short. He's also a sort of cult leader, one who keeps an eye out for who his next population of acolytes will be.


> Or Larry Ellison, who has somehow despite the odds miraculously managed to keep Oracle afloat and somewhat relevant for decades—no mean feat indeed?

I'm not sure how one can consider Larry Ellison more savvy and impactful than Musk.




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