Android has a bloat problem in general. I uninstalled almost everything on my new iPad. On my Pixel 6A, I can only disable stock apps (they are still there taking up space). Its 2023, I should be able to completely uninstall apps I don't need.
That's likely because Apple is doing the same thing but just lying to you about it. You can't uninstall stock apps because they came on a read-only system image that was signed by your device manufacturer.
This isn’t true. Deleting apps does actually remove that app and usually user data too. Associated system frameworks might stick around because other parts of the OS depend on them.
> This isn’t true. Deleting apps does actually remove that app and usually user data too.
It is true. Factory reset your iOS device and they will come back. That happens because the app is stored still, Apple just creates a second copy that it deletes when you remove the app.
adb pm uninstall is pretty strong on stock unrooted Android
This functionality can ONLY be accessed via ADB. It is DIFFERENT from "hiding."
You can break lots of stuff, even Google spyware (Play framework), which is the evidence I need that adb pm uninstall actually works to disable prepackaged manufacturer malware!
pretty sure that just removes it for current user. the app still sits around on the image bloating things up that way. although it does save a little space.
True... but in that case isn't it the same thing as using the "uninstall" feature in Android app management settings for bundled apps that just deactivates and removes all updates, basically just keeping the bundled installer?
LineageOS (Android build without Google Play) is generally <500MiB. Google apps usually had on something like 500MiB-1.5GiB depending on what you install. Usually OEM devices have at least that much plus whatever their own stuff is piled on