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If this is the event that makes you feel like they cut corners at tesla, vs the many, many more that has been public in the news about the cars themselves, I have a bridge to sell you.


I kept hoping and didnt want to sound like that grumpy old man shouting at clouds. Tesla to me looks more like an mvp with good batteries. I think it will go downhill as more ev makers enter the market and tesla cant compete with them in making actual cars. Elon spent 44 billion on a bloody troll platform and is heavily distracted by it.


What is a "actual car"? Genuine question.


A car. That you can actually fix.

Not a locked down electronic toy with what appears to be a vehicle attached to it.


The requirement to drive with auto-bright headlights, coupled with the auto-bright system’s complete inability to detect incoming traffic, is all you need to know about the importance of quality at Tesla.


I got downvoted to hell for asking about that on here recently.


Not adding LIDAR and playing this ambiguous marketing game of not really self-driving vs “you can just sit in the back and enjoy whatever you want” makes their whole business a scam.


Battery tech seems good tho. Wondering why other carmakers are so far behind.




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