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I'm glad you started to pick up on the subtle point about Heisenberg, but it sounds like you stopped halfway. What would be the consequences of allowing Heisenberg to dictate codes of conduct for quantum physicists today, or Wagner to dictate codes of conduct for performers of his operas?

I addressed the point about when codes of conduct apply to users of software in the document linked.



> What would be the consequences of allowing Heisenberg to dictate codes of conduct for quantum physicists today

He couldn’t. All he could do would be to dictate the code of conduct for physicists working at the MPI. And if you don’t like his code of conduct, you can go to a different institute, or take it up with the community or the board of directors for the institute. Your implied scenario of “what if a nazi wrote a code of conduct” doesn’t scare me because the only thing worse than a nazi is a nazi in hiding. And if the code of conduct contains no nazi agenda, well then he can be held accountable if he does something against the code of conduct (like, for example, being a nazi)


> He couldn’t. All he could do would be to dictate the code of conduct for physicists working at the MPI

And that's precisely why I think it's absurd for a code repository to have a code of conduct.


What’s the categorical difference between the nodejs repo and the max planck institute that it’s ok for one to have a code of conduct but not the other?


One is a piece of software, governed (one hopes) by the terms of its license if at all, and the other is a group of people, or (according to some people's beliefs) some sort of incorporeal tulpa-like entity whose activities are carried out in the material plane by a group of people.

I don't know why you keep asking me questions that are answered in the document I linked at the top of the thread. It's less than 1000 words long, you can read it in three minutes.


Because your document doesn’t answer any of these questions, and I’m confused why you think it does.

You don’t actually specify any beef with what you call purpose #1 - an agreement within a group about how it should be governed. Except for, as you say, single developer or small group projects - that’s the stated purpose of ALL codes of conduct. Some may contain ethical postering or demands of users (i’ve never seen that) - but those are malformed codes of conduct and should be criticized for those flaws not for being codes of conduct




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