Rust has seen significant usage in large companies; they wouldn't be using it unless it was usable for "real work".
I didn't say it wasn't usable. I said I found Zig more usable.
I'd say this about Rust, though. Rust's mental model is very straightforward if you accept the borrow-checker and stop fighting it. Can you list any examples of what you think is a headache...?
Mate, I didn't start learning rust in order to wage war against the borrow checker. I had no idea what the hell it wanted a lot of the time. Each time I fixed an error I thought I got it, and each time I was wrong. The grind got boring.
As for specific examples no, I've tried to put rust out of my mind. I certainly can't remember specific issues from 3 months ago.
I've found that jumping through those hoops leads to things running in production that don't make me get up in the middle of the night. Can you show me a "valid program" that Rust rejects?
Yeah that's how rust as sold, the compiler is your friend and stuff will compile and it will never fail.
In reality the compiler was so irritating I hardly got anything done at all. The output wasn't super reliable software, it was no software.
Sounds like you got annoyed trying to learn something new, quit, and decided it's not worth your time. When people tell you it takes a few weeks to get the hang of rust they aren't kidding. Most people aren't the exception to that, but once you do get it, it's really great... Not kidding about that either...
I think I spent about two months. You're right, I do resent the time I spent on it. In a way I'd like to warn others.
The turning point came for me when talking to someone using rust pretty much since it first came out. He basically said "yeah, I still don't know why it doesn't compile either sometimes". He's smarter than me, and all he's managed to do in years of learning it is have a knack for fixing errors without understanding them.
I need some brain capacity left over for actually solving a problem.
I didn't say it wasn't usable. I said I found Zig more usable.
I'd say this about Rust, though. Rust's mental model is very straightforward if you accept the borrow-checker and stop fighting it. Can you list any examples of what you think is a headache...?
Mate, I didn't start learning rust in order to wage war against the borrow checker. I had no idea what the hell it wanted a lot of the time. Each time I fixed an error I thought I got it, and each time I was wrong. The grind got boring.
As for specific examples no, I've tried to put rust out of my mind. I certainly can't remember specific issues from 3 months ago.
I've found that jumping through those hoops leads to things running in production that don't make me get up in the middle of the night. Can you show me a "valid program" that Rust rejects?
Yeah that's how rust as sold, the compiler is your friend and stuff will compile and it will never fail.
In reality the compiler was so irritating I hardly got anything done at all. The output wasn't super reliable software, it was no software.