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Did HP really start that VLIW design _TEN_ years before P4, because that would be 1985 and I find that unlikely? At Intel IA64 and P4 were developed at the about same time, with P4 taping-out a few years later; the former in Santa Clara, the latter in Oregon.

> The M1 is not an esoteric machine, and if Apple had bundled an Itanium of equal computational ability, all of those NOPs would burn a hole through the casing.

You're right, its not. And I never said it was. But a 6D mesh torus sure is.



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