Honestly I really don't see the Geforce play. Nvidia tried it with Tegra and failed pretty miserably. Mali and Adreno pretty much cornered the market from that era(with PowerVR pivoting over to Apple). I just don't see their IP really hitting it home with the type of workloads you see in SoCs.
The primary driver for most SoC GPUs since the qHD days is to push pixels for the UI layers which has a different set of requirements and features compared to modern GPUs use for Gaming or ML. They're almost exclusively heavily tiling based and biased more towards power consumption than raw horsepower.
> Honestly I really don't see the Geforce play. Nvidia tried it with Tegra and failed pretty miserably. Mali and Adreno pretty much cornered the market from that era
I want to be nice but I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under. TX2 is 3 years old & it's not just nvidia cornering the entire hapless AI/ML market with proprietary CUDA that keeps it & the jetson platform as the #1 most obvious go to for robotics, in spite of having a fairly trash terrible not very good ARM cpu: those couple of nv cores are way better than the rest of the arm offerings. Even outside ML, the nv gpu arm offerings radically outstrip everyone else. No one else has the ram bandwidth to begin to compete, much less the cores. 3 years have passed & the only one with the X2's 60GBps is the NV Xavier top end part with 137GBps. No one else is playing the league as NV has been playing with arm gpus. I don't know how you would call this massive raring colossal success a failure. Word nothing of the Nintendo Switch.
The Tegra thing is interesting, and I wrote about it in the other thread too.
It is a failure for NVidia in that they launched it as a mainstream mobile phone/tablet part, and it's not used in anything outside the NVidia Shield in that market that I'm aware of (and the Switch of course).
But it has seen success in robotics and self driving cars, because NVidia makes it easy to use and it has great performance.
So it's not obvious how to judge it. Commercially, compared to their initial goals it is probably a failure. But it has opened new markets that didn't exist so that's successful?
Horsepower isn't everything, usually cost and power consumption come first in SoC selection followed by feature set(of which your GPU is one part of a larger picture).
If you want to really succeed in the SoC space(which is where Arm has) then what you need is volume and I don't think Tegra ever really made any serious inroads there.
The switch is a game console and so it sits somewhat outside of the traditional high-volume SoC market.
Honestly I really don't see the Geforce play. Nvidia tried it with Tegra and failed pretty miserably. Mali and Adreno pretty much cornered the market from that era(with PowerVR pivoting over to Apple). I just don't see their IP really hitting it home with the type of workloads you see in SoCs.
The primary driver for most SoC GPUs since the qHD days is to push pixels for the UI layers which has a different set of requirements and features compared to modern GPUs use for Gaming or ML. They're almost exclusively heavily tiling based and biased more towards power consumption than raw horsepower.