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Perhaps the current situation is completely okay? Some people sacrifice their leisure to work for something they care about. These tend to be men because of heightened competition. Who are you to dictate their life to satisfy your statistical egalitarianism? This is just bullying.


The sacrifice way more than just leisure. If this was about leisure, there would be no discussion.


The point stands. Who are you to dictate what is and is not ok for others to sacrifice in order to get what they want? Just because their values don't align with yours doesn't make them wrong.


I'm not saying people shouldn't freely chose to sacrifice something, quite the opposite.

I don't think some sacrifices should be required. It will always be a grey area: you can't have everything in life, there's only so many hours in a day.

Another thing that may not be okay, is that when you tool at the top 5 regret of the dying, most men regret having worked so hard. So why are we pretending this is what they want?


How, specifically, would you change that, then?

Because people on the other tribal side of the argument to you are immediately skeptical of the motivations behind your stated goals, expecting anything you would actually propose doing to end up hurting them, even though they actually see similar problems to you (just expressed differently- see 'wagie, wagie, get in cagie' on youtube for how 4chan sees the rat-race, for example).

So- someone makes you the emperor of the US. What do you do?


Slate Star Codex had an excellent essay about this, the nature of races-to-the-bottom, and the harm they cause to human flourishing.




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