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Not so obviously as you might think. But, if they are going to do it, they should clearly do it well


Right, but my experience is that Java (and a few others) have succeeded in this space. I actually wish that I could use maven to install system software rather than having to rely on something like apt.


I am intrigued by the experiences you have had which lead you to precisely the reverse conclusion to mine.


I wish that I could do literally anything else in my life but use maven.


Wow. My experience is that Java got it spectacularly wrong, with different tools stepping on each other constantly.




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