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With everything that has gone on at Uber including a former friend of Travis' accusing him of stealing the company concept itself, something like this wouldn't be a Surprise.


It must be very confusing and frustrating for the guy. It's just like Enron: all that behavior is super wonderful and exciting and disruptive and rewarding, until suddenly it's not.

The kind of person who does this stuff, really doesn't understand even the concept of 'crossing a line', or indeed legality. Hence, it seems to them really offensive that anyone should get in their way, and up TO that point their self-confidence carries them and helps persuade others that they're the golden boy.

The real lesson is 'how did we get here in the first place'. It's easy to bust the biggest megastar and make a story of hubris and disastrous, Icarus-like fall, but isn't it the very same system that put them there at that valuation?

The rule seems to be 'Seem like the biggest monster around, but if we catch you actually BEING it, you're busted'.


> all that behavior is super wonderful and exciting

Um. Nope. Uber based on its business on weakening the rule of law by wilfully ignoring the taxi regulations https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/technology/uber-greyball-... . To add insult to injury they worked steadily on reinstating indentured servitude by pushing subprime loans on drivers where the payments come out of their wages and their cars not starting if they are remiss. http://valleywag.gawker.com/uber-and-its-shady-partners-are-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-31/inside-ub... https://twitter.com/shashashasha/status/688734478181732352 And to crown it all, when they started automated car testing they put cyclists in deadly danger https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-self...

What's "wonderful and exciting" about this? Uber from day one has been running from the law. You can't do that forever. It's been some sixty years now when the "I fought the law and the law won" song was recorded. It's still true.


Although I am ready to believe almost anything derogatory about Kalanick up to and including eating bbq'd babies with mayonnaise (yuck), the idea of "stealing a company concept" is pretty lame.

Lyft started with a different business snd pivoted to Uber's (itself all a pivot?). Did Lyft "steal the concept?"


Not quite. Uber started as a hailing black car effort, then Lyft pivoted from ridesharing to hailing 'common cars' over a Hackathon iirc, and then Uber pivoted to uberX. History aside, this 'copying of ideas' is distinct since someone independent is reimplementing a general concept (which is not really protectable). You would be hard pressed to argue that burger king stole McDonald's idea of selling hamburgers, for example.

I think in the Uber/Otto case the theft is pretty specific. The laws outline what it means to steal corporate secrets. (This is distinct from violating IP or copying an idea). Usually this sort of theft involves being privy to corporate secrets and breaking contractual agreements to not take certain information with you.


> I think in the Uber/Otto case the theft is pretty specific.

I agree 100%. When you wrote "stole the concept" I thought you meant Uber's original business approaches.




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