Wow, so this is what it's like to be misrepresented. Firstly, there is no "microkernel hatred" on my part, just hatred of pop-opinions of them being a 100% superior technology for all cases.
And my second comment follows this theme as it was pointing out a contradiction in the poster's argument of microkernels simply being superior. I fully understand the rationale behind running Linux in a microkernel, but it isn't something that reinforces the argument that monolithic kernels are "just inferior".
In short, I'd be a lot more impressed if this dude spent the effort he used scouring the internet for quotes building something where he could just show us the code of a microkernel outperforming a monolithic kernel. Enough of the dogma.
(Oh, and note that at no point do I claim to be a kernel developer either)
Firstly, there is no "microkernel hatred" on my part, just hatred of pop-opinions of them being a 100% superior technology for all cases.
That's not a "pop-opinion". The popular opinion is exactly the opposite: microkernels are mostly a curiosity at best (if not a travesty) and monolithic kernels do 99.99% of what you want.
You're blinded by your microkernel hatred.
I fully understand the rationale behind running Linux in a microkernel, but it isn't something that reinforces the argument that monolithic kernels are "just inferior".
It isn't meant to reinforce such an argument.
In short, I'd be a lot more impressed if this dude spent the effort he used scouring the internet for quotes building something where he could just show us the code of a microkernel outperforming a monolithic kernel. Enough of the dogma.
Damage control. Those damned quotes from those damned academics, they don't mean a thing! All that matters is my stars on GitHub!
(Oh, and I don't call anyone "fags" either)
It should be obvious I was paraphrasing.
(Anyway, it's unsurprising to see you have no concrete rebuttal whatsoever and have to resort to deflecting.)
"That's not a "pop-opinion". The popular opinion is exactly the opposite: microkernels are mostly a curiosity at best (if not a travesty) and monolithic kernels do 99.99% of what you want."
Nope, I'd say the pop opinion is against anything that is described as "monolithic". The word "monolithic" itself is pretty much a pejorative in most circles these days.
"You're blinded by your microkernel hatred."
You're unbelievable. Clearly you must know me better than myself.
"It isn't meant to reinforce such an argument."
That was the whole point of the thread. That was your original principal statement (or implication anyway) which I took issue with.
"Damage control."
What damage?!
"Those damned quotes from those damned academics, they don't mean a thing!"
Those damned results from damned reality... If there's one thing I would be certain of about microkernels, it's that someone would be able to collect a lot of quotes from academics supporting them.
"(Anyway, it's unsurprising to see you have no concrete rebuttal whatsoever"
No! I am not going to spend hours assembling dogma! I have real things to do!
"have to resort to deflecting"
Look buddy, you're the only one who has made personal attacks and assume all kinds of things about me like this weird "hatred" thing and that I care about GitHub stars (wtf?).
Though I'm glad I seem to have ruined your xmas period with my few comments to the point you've spent time assembling a long page of things that have been said before which completely miss my point.
Wow, both of you need to stop flaming each other and say something valuable. No one should care about your line by line refutations of each other (though I'm sure some will make the mistake of caring).
What matters if what you can teach us about microkernels vs. monolithic kernels. The original "Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn't do drugs" somewhat does this, though the presentation as a series of lengthy quotes and the dismissive presentation of viewpoints (describing opponents as calling people "fags") could use some real work. But all three messages above this one are a waste.
And my second comment follows this theme as it was pointing out a contradiction in the poster's argument of microkernels simply being superior. I fully understand the rationale behind running Linux in a microkernel, but it isn't something that reinforces the argument that monolithic kernels are "just inferior".
In short, I'd be a lot more impressed if this dude spent the effort he used scouring the internet for quotes building something where he could just show us the code of a microkernel outperforming a monolithic kernel. Enough of the dogma.
(Oh, and note that at no point do I claim to be a kernel developer either)
(Oh, and I don't call anyone "fags" either)