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The argument is that all things you are claiming are reasons why the US took action are a (naive) fantasy. They are a convenient excuse, at most.

Trump is happy lining up behind far more monstrous characters.

It will be about his pocket, and then about what affects polling.


You have to be pretty naive at this point to believe any of these points are actually real reasons behind this action, esp. 1 or 2.

I never said that. I said that a wide majority of Venezolans are happy and this was barely mentioned in the comments.

Because it benefits the people in power. Probably in numerous ways.

Maybe, but from observing US politics from afar for a decade, 50% would be screaming for Trumps blood to lock in the win.

War powers act.

No more democracy.


Congress hasn't declared war so there's no way we can be at war.

Question is whether the Supreme Court will sell us out or not.


We should find a new name for wars that aren't wars. Maybe a some kind of special operation?

"Special Military Operation" (Специальная Военная Операция) is what the war against Ukraine is called in Russia

Pretty sure that's the joke...

Really? Wow, I never knew that. /s

They did not do this for Ukraine either, which seems quite a bit larger.

Thanks Vlad.

> Question is whether the Supreme Court will sell us out or not.

Trump just ended the National Guard deployment in LA, Chicago, and Portland after an overwhelming Supreme Country loss: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/31/donald-trump-nation...


Even this long-delayed (for a shadow docket case) limited ruling (can't send troops for now but left door open for a rehearing after lower court is finished) is an exception for history's most compliant SCotUS (unprecedented 90% favoring admin).

What about the war powers act are you talking about? It just limits situations (or purports to) where the president can use the military without a declaration of war. Even if we were suddenly actually attacked (not just Venezuelan forces fighting back) it wouldn't give any path to "no more democracy".

The President can now tell "his" DOJ to indict someone in another country (like its leader), and use that to 'legally' justify an attack on said country to grab the person.

Ironically, the current administration thinks that American courts can hold any president accountable for crimes, except the American president.


There is a path to no more democracy, and being at war makes that path a lot easier.

I'm not American, my 'war powers act' statement wasn't pointing at specific legislation, it was a hand wave to the past.

It rhymes.


You know the president said that the Epstein files were a democrat hoax, right?

I feel like at this stage the US administration could contend that the moon is in fact made of cheese and news agencies would respond by running news stories about the implications of this on future possible lunar missions.


Interesting that they felt the need to redact a hoax and even include an innocent photo of Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson that was redacted to make it look suspect.

I'm so bored.

Trump is a sex offender. He's also a convicted criminal. He is also completely devoid of ethics or morality.

But because of the car crash that is American politics, you have to address all of this through the theatre of the set of documents associated with the world's most infamous paedophile (who also appears to be his best mate).

It's exhausting.


Well, I'm just an onlooker, so I don't have any influence on U.S. politics. I'm just constantly astonished that the U.S. people would vote for such a charlatan. Twice.

The problem is you’re getting all your information from the internet (I’ll bet social media?).

The impact of that is on display in this very thread. Random unproven accusations, conspiracy theories and repetition of “facts” that have been disproven long ago.

If your goal is to educate yourself about the US leadership, or really any subject, you’re not going to do it by what you see on social media.


Your post isn't really doing anything apart from casting general doubt. Can you be more specific please?

Are there more reliable sources of information that you can point to?


> > Random unproven accusations, conspiracy theories and repetition of “facts” that have been disproven long ago.

Every person who has been out in the world had to deal with a Trump like person in the workplace or wherever .

And people don't like it, as a matter of fact they despise it, he's only kept afloat by those who fail to connect the abusive bullying behavior of DJT with their own personal experience with a similar character and those who enjoy bullying or are paitiently waiting in line to do some bullying.


You reply seems to be a nonsequitur to my comment.

it's not, you are arguing for media to conceal or hide Trump's personality and the common intuition ahout him

Intuition?

Let me put it this way - if you wanted to know a subject well, as in truly understand it, for example the current protests in Iran.

Do you think you’d walk away with a good understanding from what the mainstream media says? From social media?

I think it clear to most people the media does a horrible job.

Now consider if they do such a horrible job on those topics, do you think they suddenly do a good job on US politics?


There is nothing to understand about Trump, he's a know it all bully who enjoys bullying people and given the fact that he was born in privilege has always enjoyed the luxury to pick targets way below his stature as subjects of bullying. As bullys do. Picking on weaker people because they enjoy the process , and actually find it way more enjoyable than winning against equals or god forbid be the underdogs in a confrontation.

Social media and tech companies are effectively helping external actors (and malicious internal actors) to break western democracy.

Quite - that's been patently obvious since the Cambridge Analytica scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Ana...

Ultimately, there's a war between the haves and the have-nots and one side clearly has more resources.


Yeah.

It's demoralising.


Yes, that is the final observation needed in the proof that open societies are more brittle than those led by dictators.

An open society shouldn't have all the mainstream media in the control of just a handful of people - that's a recipe for abuse and cover-ups. It reminds me of hierarchical religions where just certain people (e.g. priests) have access to the "higher powers" and can thus mislead the masses.

Venezuela will never invade the US now, fr.

And everyone is now giving proper consideration to that important fact and forgetting those pesky domestic issues.


Is everyone sufficiently distracted yet?

Having lived roughly 50 years on the planet, I recognise this as both a view I used to hold and as pretty naive.

You can't trust any numbers coming out of China.

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