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Because Codeberg is a proper non-profit association ("Codeberg e.V.") which makes it more than "just another forge". With that said, I do wish decentralized/distributed forges was used more, git unsurprisingly fits well with it.

Crap, that "escape method" of "we'll redirect you away if you click too much" made it really hard to read the text.

It may just be me or my internet, but I tried this specifically to see the effect and it was a very slow escape (seemed delayed starting to load, and then loading the escape page).

I came to say the same thing: I love the idea of the quick escape, but some of the sites take way too long to load. They should prioritize sites with the fastest loading (smallest footprint) over some of the jokey-er websites like "43 Gifts for Every Type of Boss."

Sounds like maybe you should add caching in there, so at least the /explore and facebook/react works. I ended up rate limited before I could see a single repository.

> the execution is sometimes murky

Is the "murky" part "criticism to politicians in power" or what exactly is unclear about combating hate speech?

> the line will be drawn by White House for the US companies, not the EU.

I don't think there is "one line" drawn by a single person, there are multiple entities here drawing their own lines wherever they want. In some governments, the lines have already been drawn between what is hate speech or not.


> Is the "murky" part "criticism to politicians in power" or what exactly is unclear about combating hate speech?

Chiefly, the subjective definition beyond "speech someone hates". Social media is trending towards establishing lockstep opinions and smushing disagreement. Using such labels is effective in cowing dissent.

It's tempting to objectively label something as bad through a subjective process, as appeals to authority are powerful. Your point about diverging lines being drawn highlights the importance of skepticism of these appeals.


> Is the "murky" part "criticism to politicians in power" or what exactly is unclear about combating hate speech?

Not the commenter you are respoinding to, but the link they shared explained that some of the 'hate speech’ that gets flagged is not anything that would rise to the level of ‘hate speech’ in many other jurisdictions. One of the examples cited was a person prosecuted for calling a politician a “professional moron”. The politician in question had had 700 people investigated for insulting them online in such a fashion; another politician had made more than 500 similar complaints.

Personally, I am uncomfortable with labeling some speech ‘hate speech’ and punishing the speaker even if it is indeed hateful because inevitably such laws will be used by people I don’t agree with to limit expression well beyond ‘hate speech’. Yet even if a case might be made for limiting some speech (denial of the Holocaust, for example) I don’t think that there is a strong case for limiting my ability to call a politician a moron, professional or otherwise.


Maybe many subreddits suffer from the same, also happening in r/homeassistant but the community seems to not mind it as much as r/selfhosted for whatever reason.

> In order to determine the difference (as going by code & commits alone can be a great indicator but by itself does not make a great case for what constitutes a vibe-coded or AI-assisted project) we've set the following guidelines: [...] With obvious signs of vibe-coding*

Gonna be interesting to see how deep those accusation-threads will go, people trying to determine the "obvious signs".


> I don't know if I can really trust the data. 93% of 40k+ votes are NO AI. How is that possible.

You give a question that requires nuance, forces it into a 50/50 situation and then you'll have everyone in the middle defaulting to "No" since it's closer than "Yes". Then use that as evidence for everyone hating AI.


I haven't seen a single ad from ChatGPT here in Spain, yet everywhere I go, there are tons of people using ChatGPT for all kinds of stuff. Last time I saw it in the wild, it was the person who was giving me the keys to a car I wanted to test drove, that was using ChatGPT and had it opened on their computer.

Seemingly to me, adoption is happening without ads or promotion, how do you explain away this?

FWIW, I wouldn't say I'm "YES AI" nor "NO AI", but I do use LLMs daily to programming.


I'm "kind of yes AI" and use it everyday, mostly for programming, for other stuff too, been doing for years. People on HN would probably call me "AI zealot", considering I have nuance with my opinions.

So obviously I voted "No", because that's closer to what I do, than "Yes". I can imagine lots of the "No" votes are like this.


I saw your comment, thought "This person must have not checked the website, can't be just a yes or no question because that'd be so misleading"

Clicks on the page.

[Yes] - [No]

I think it serves as a beautiful visualization of everything that is wrong in the world today. Not because of the question, nor the answers, but because of thinking something like that can just be divided into "Agree" and "Disagree" and somehow think that's a good idea.


> I also can't fathom why the crowd (not just a HN subset) that was clamoring for tariffs thought it'd be anyone other than them shouldering the increase. Perhaps their influencers didn't spell it out for them?

Now I'm neither in the US, American nor Democrat/Republican, but as far as I understand their argument, is that they know it means higher costs for those products for them, and it'll eventually lead to companies wanting to produce things within the border, and only after that is in place, will things actually get cheaper (and better?).

So I think for these people with that perspective, the idea is: everything cheap -> tariffs to make imports expensive > People buy less imports and companies start selling within the border > Eventually things get cheap.

Again, this is just me trying to understand their perspective.


Yep, I came down to a similar conclusion in my thinking, and assumed they wouldn't have thought of the cost of restarting local industry, or of importing foreign (tariffed) materials for the local industry to work with.

Thank you for offering an additional perspective. The article reads like the tariffs were a complete and total failure. You are saying it is too soon to tell, correct?

For many if not most of the affected imports, it would never ever make economical sense to try to rebuild a local industry from scratch, at least not without major subsidies. And as for local alternatives that already exist, they carry a premium higher than any tariff (because a local workforce likes to be paid living wages), even if magically scaled up to achieve some degree of economies of scale. Western economies are truly and irreversibly post-industrial.

This take depends on the munificence of the local retailers deciding all on their own (because there's no external pressure apart from other retailers in the same position) to lower the price of their goods (and therefore reduce their profit) once the tariffs have forced the foreign goods off the market.

I don't believe it for a second.

Here's something that has happened before though. During the American War of Treasonous Aggression, the southern states decided to impose tariffs on the export of cotton to the UK. That caused massive hardship in the UK in the short term as it made the goods that the cotton was a raw material for impossible to sell. UK jobs were lost, UK workers starved etc.

So the local UK manufacturing companies found markets to supply them elsewhere in the world. They set up the supply lines, they reached agreements, and life went on. UK jobs were gained again, UK workers stopped starving. Life was good.

When the American War of Treasonous Aggression was over, the southern states wanted to drop their tariffs and start supplying the UK again. It didn't happen - there was no need to return to an unreliable partner when everything was set up just fine and dandy as it was, and the US cotton was essentially unsellable. US jobs were lost, US workers starved etc. The cotton industry never recovered from that.

Tariffs are a "fuck you, make me" slap in the face. Do it to people you don't like, but if you do it to people who are supposed to be "allies" (obviously not allies in the above case, but the consequences here were just as real), the consequences can be ... quite concerning for the tariffers.


Tariffs/subsidies should be weaned off over time. Their success absolutely does not depend on "local retailers [why are you even talking about retailers when it is all about manufacturers?] deciding all on their own to lower their prices". The external competitors are still there and will just come back when tariffs are lowered, so domestic manufacturers are forced to become cost competitive.

> Tariffs/subsidies should be weaned off over time.

The economic problem is that so long as the production cost imbalance exists, weaning off the tariffs just creates the same market forces that created the trade imbalance (and export of jobs) that created the situation in the first place.

I.e., if it inherently costs $5 to make a "widget" in Elbonia [1] and it inherently [2] costs $25 to make the identical (in every way) "widget" here [3] then while a tariff of $20/widget would make both equal in price, any reduction in the tariff will make the Elbonian made widget cheaper, and a purchaser will be incentivized to buy the Elbonian made one over the "made here" version because they, individually, save money by doing so.

So to maintain the widget making industry "here" the tariff has to be maintained. Any reduction and the cost incentives of "made in Elbonia" reappear, and the local manufacturer sees a corresponding drop in sales.

[1] Chosen only because it is not a real place.

[2] Meaning the local manufacturer cannot possibly produce one for less, due to higher costs "here" (e.g., energy costs, raw materials costs, labor costs, insurance costs, etc.)

[3] Where ever "here" is for the reader.


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