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FYI that is an extremely challenging thing to do right. Especially if you care about accuracy and evidentiary detail. Not sure this is something that the current crop of AI tools are really tuned to do properly.

This is a good point. Some of the tools have a "creative mode" or "creativity" knob that hopefully drives this point home. But the simpler ones don't, and even with that setting dialed back it still has the same fundamental limitations/risks.

>It's hard to sink that kind of money into a laptop with OEM accessories today even if you tried hard.

Apple has entered the chat.

A fully specced current-gen MBP gets to about $7,500. Not $11k, but still a pretty expensive device to tote around.


I'm sure they will get there.

It's not uncommon, particularly for vehicles with composite body panels. Smaller items like door trim, manufacturer logos, are primarily held on with adhesives.

Mid-size accessories like add-on spoilers on trunk lids, or other exterior styling pieces are frequently attached with adhesive.

A larger component commonly attached with adhesives are the rear fender flares on dually pickups. Very commonly these are built with a standard bed, and then the flares to cover the extra wheel width are applied with a 3M VHB-like adhesive strip.

But like anything, there is a way to do it properly, and a way to do it hacky.


Using glue in vehicle assembly is very uncommon.

Most plastic body panels are held on with conformal clips. But they couldn't do that with the metal panels of the cyber truck nor did they want visible fasteners so glue is the only option.

Glue isn't ideal because the part has to be clamped in place while the glue cures which is slow, and quality control is tough because you're doing a little chemistry experiment on your assembly line hundreds of times per day.

Normal cars have this problem with paint and quality control with paint is such a big deal that it has its own separate production line just for painting stuff pre or post assembly

Using composite panels is very uncommon in production vehicles and when they are used (for looks) traditional fasteners are used during assembly often with threaded inserts embedded in the composite panel during manufacture


I should probably clarify my comment a bit.

Glue is uncommon in most cases, particularly for body-panel mounted things like the examples I gave. Adhesive-mounted components are common, to various degrees.

Glass-mounted items are commonly glued, the most prevalent one being the knob for the rear view mirror. And "prevalent" here means "99% of anything mounted to glass in a vehicle"

Tesla is using BETASEAL [0], which is designed for adhering to glass. I'm not sure what kind of weight rating BETASEAL is approved for, it is commonly used for other applications where a decent degree of strength is expected.

[0] https://www.dupont.com/content/dam/dupont/amer/us/en/mobilit...


The lightbars mentioned in the article were an optional non-factory addon that were installed at the Tesla dealership. The steel body panels are not glued on.

> The steel body panels are not glued on.

https://futurism.com/cybertruck-held-together-glue


Have you considered welding? "glue is the only option" -- wat?

"But there's a point where extra effort makes the work less good."

This happens frequently in mixing and mastering audio tracks. You pile up incremental changes that all seemed good at the time. Then you go back and listen to a recording from 20 revisions ago and it sounds better than your current "best" effort.


Sometimes that is because you need 60 more revisions to make it good - though you may have to go back to the start several times to figure out which are good.

I find I can churn away making revisions for a month and it makes a new, typically worse, song

"Makes no sense" is basically SoftBank's motto though.

It might be dumb, but at least it's expensive.

This looks like it would make basic interaction with your phone highly cumbersome. It also looks like an easier target for thieves.


There will be tons of cheap clones in 3...2...1....

This was one of my first thoughts. Could have knock-offs made for probably $10 landed cost, and put them on Amazon for $99.

My mom knitted a bag for my niece's iphone in 2024, so there already was a trend.

I'm sure there will be, will be interested in how many people who want cheap clones want ... that.

I'm not sure there's a sure crossover of big numbers.


This makes me wonder how strong this thing is because on first sight it just asks for being cut by a random thug. Same goes for this strap thing they introduced.

I thought I won't be seeing anything else more ridiculous this decade regarding phones than people talking on speaker and holding them like piece of pie and here we are. There's no practicality whatsoever - I'd rather buy a strong case, probably that would cover both screen and cameras and a good urban backpack where I can put other stuff like physical wallet and a bottle of water, some charging cable.

It's more a gadget sold as a status symbol - bit like some cases had that small rounded window for apple logo.


The classic is two guys on a moped in Marseilles. The passenger cuts a pedestrian purse strap (or iPhone strap) and they vanish.

One could embed an invisible security cable, but then...


Give it a week and you will get all colors from aliexpress or shien for $5.

> It might be dumb, but at least it's expensive.

Just realizing that the reverse could be a selling point for a phone here: It might be expensive, but at least it's dumb.


Haha, before looking at the price, I joked "I'm not going to buy this if it's only $99 or less."

I sure didn't get disappointed.


You might want to read more about the right of way rules and USCG apportionment in maritime accidents. In the scenario you describe you most definitely would not be getting a new boat.


What makes you think the USCG has any bearing on my life? Even if I am an American I stated that my dream was to be blown about the oceans, which strongly implies that I will be out of USCG jurisdiction the majority of the time. You are right in context of a busy seaway like New York Harbor but in that situation a sailing freighter will be under power, not under sail and anyone in a small sailboat will be very alert. Most of the ocean is not under jurisdiction of the USCG and the rules for open water are different than those for near the coast or in the harbor.


I’m not sure where people get the idea of the rules don’t apply in international waters. The COLREGs clearly state commercial vessels have right away over recreational sailboats. End of story. You get run over by a commercial vessel, it’s your fault for being in the way but it’s their fault for running you down.


Here is the COLREG order:

  Not under command
  Restricted maneuverability
  Constrained by draft
  Fishing (actively dragging)
  Under sail
Ignoring not under command; in the open sea only the fishing boat has right of way over a sailing boat because the rest are not restricted by maneuverability or draft when in the middle of the ocean unless the crew is negligent. Fishing vessels in the open ocean tend to give way unless they can raise the boat on the radio and get them to change course because they really do not want the sail boat to foul their lines, especially the long line boats. In restricted waters boats under sail often have the right of way because they have restricted maneuverability (restricted by the wind) and their deep keel means they are restricted by draft but it is not so black and white here; if the sailboat can fire up its engine it is more maneuverable than that tug pulling a bunch of barges so if that sailboat has less draft restriction than the tug and its barges, it has to fire up its engine and get out of the way.

But COLREG is not the rule of the sea, just the rule for countries who are a part of the UN. But the truth is that a collision with such a sailboat will not phase these boats and generally writing a check is an insignificant cost and rare enough that it is what they do.


That and using Dec instead of DEC. Was having trouble parsing the title on this one.


HN does way too much "helpful" title normalization. @Dang pls fix


Anecdata I have a 2017 F-Type R. It's a daily driver and does not get babied. Has been essentially bulletproof, a couple of minor repairs, but nothing different than any other vehicle I have ever owned.

I've thought about replacing it, but why.


ONVIF and RTSP are different things. ONVIF is a device and services discovery protocol RTSP is a video streaming protocol.

ONVIF can be used to discover a camera on a network, query it for its RTSP URL, and facilitate a connection between a client service and the RTSP stream. But you can't stream video via "ONVIF".


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